Q about crash c-sections (may be sens)

Mrs JMP
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  • Q about crash c-sections (may be sens)

    Just a wondering really.  Romilly was born by crash c-section when her heart rate dropped t0 60bpm.  Chase had been born by emergency c-section and at that time I signed the consent form just as I'd been told would be required in my antenatal classes.

    I didn't sign a consent form with Romilly, neither did H.  Is it not required in this situation.............considered too much of an emergency? 

    As I say, just a wondering, consent form or no consent form, I am just so grateful she was ok.  Born with top apgar scores ironically!

    Baby boyChase Sept 05

    Baby girlRomilly Feb 08

    I founded MINOS!Sleep Est. 2006

  • Re: Q about crash c-sections (may be sens)

    • ymcas
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    we had similar situation, heart rate dropped, rushed into surgery with a "no time to sign consent form... is that ok", but then they took so long to get a canular in me his heart rate recovered and so they got me to sign consent then

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    I didn't sign a consent form either, the surgeon said to me "we have to do a c-section now, ok" and that was it.  As we were running down the hall at the moment - well, I wasn't I was on the bed being pushed - I kind of realised there wasn't much option.

    When we went for a review 6 weeks post birth he went through everything then and said clearly, "we didn't have time to consent you, do you have a problem with that ?"

    Apologies for lack of capital letters - Zoe has stolen my shift key Huh?

  • Re: Q about crash c-sections (may be sens)

    Thanks both.  In our case the consent form was never mentioned, either before or after the birth.  I just wondered if isn't required in some situations.

    Baby boyChase Sept 05

    Baby girlRomilly Feb 08

    I founded MINOS!Sleep Est. 2006

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    • Zoay
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    I have a vague idea that written consent isn't actually legally required for anything, just good (and usual) practice. Don't quote me on that. I did sign one for my crash section. Seeing my wiggly upsidedown writing again afterwards was horrible as it brought back all the emotions.

  • Re: Q about crash c-sections (may be sens)

    When you were having your section Zoay, do you think it was worse because you had more of an understanding of what was going on and what the risks were ? 

    I really had no idea that things were so touch and go until afterwards, from the term "emergency section" I presumed everyone had the running down the hall, people shouting etc but chatting to friends afterwards some waited hours for their emergency sections. 

    Apologies for lack of capital letters - Zoe has stolen my shift key Huh?

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    Thanks Zoay.  That's possibly why I didn't sign one if not legally required.  It was so quick, I was still in my clothes when I came round (minus bottom half obv) and H was left alone for 20 mins not knowing what was going on (for which they apologised for after).

    Baby boyChase Sept 05

    Baby girlRomilly Feb 08

    I founded MINOS!Sleep Est. 2006

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    • Jugs
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    My first wasn't crash section but emergency, so not exactly what you asked, but I did sign a consent form for this however I have no recollection of doing so, when I saw it afterwards I can vaguely recognise that the signature is mine and Hubby saw me sign it so obviously I did.

  • Re: Q about crash c-sections (may be sens)

    The form does have legal bearing.

    Informed consent is normally given by the patient signing or by a verbal consent in an emergencty where the patient is aware what is going on.

    When a patient is not able to consent, either NOK will sign or the Consultant wil go ahead &  give life saving treatment under the Hippocratic oath they have sworn.

     

     

  • Re: Q about crash c-sections (may be sens)

    Mrs JMP:
     

    Informed consent is normally given by the patient signing or by a verbal consent in an emergencty where the patient is aware what is going on.

    When a patient is not able to consent, either NOK will sign or the Consultant wil go ahead &  give life saving treatment under the Hippocratic oath they have sworn.

     

    Thanks Mrs JMP.  I was told what was going to happen (not asked to give consent but simply told they were going to take me into theatre, give me a GA and "get your baby out")  As I say, I have no complaint I'm just wondering.

    I had assumed that it had been done without the consent form as it was a life threatening situation (for Romilly).

    Baby boyChase Sept 05

    Baby girlRomilly Feb 08

    I founded MINOS!Sleep Est. 2006

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