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C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

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  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    • clairol
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    I haven't had a section but three of my friends have - in all cases the first was an emergency and the second elective - due to breech, failure of induction/overdue baby, risk to baby from very long cord.  In all of them they said that the elective sections were calm and everyone was friendly.  They obviously had to recover but most of them were up and about in a day or two albeit slowly! All said that they would much rather have had the planned section than attempt labour, be exhausted and then have to be rushed for an emergency section.

    I think that a couple said it's a bit of an odd sensation and that there are a lot of people in theatre but other than that they were all pretty positive and certainly felt that it was the best option for them under their circumstances.

  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    • Janner
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    This goes on forever but you can skim. Precis: emergency c-section due to undiagnosed breech and meconium, but not that much of an "emergency" - no panic, lovely and calm, easy recovery, wonderful medical people, very positive.  I'm down for a VBAC this time round with the proviso that *anything* goes odd they whip me into theatre straight away, and that's only because I'd like to be able to drive afterwards.

     

    My birth plan had started something like this: "I would like an active labour with the minimum of medical intervention..." Sometimes you just have to look back and laugh.After a totally straightforward pregnancy (every one of my antenatal notes just stated baldl"patient well") I was fully expecting a straightforward enough labour. After all, I'd been attending my Active Birth yoga for 20 weeks, had completed my NCT classes and was bouncing around on my gym ball every night to ensure optimal foetal positioning. I did everything that it said on the tin, although at the back of my mind there was the nagging reminder that I had been a breech baby, and so had my brother. Oh, and my father. And my nephew for that matter, but who's counting? But at every antenatal since 28 weeks I'd been told that baby was nicely head down, so I really wasn't too worried.


    After a fairly slatternly last trimester my nesting instinct did finally kick in on the afternoon of Sunday 24 September when I found myself, to my great surprise, on my hands and knees scrubbing the kitchen floor as if my life depended on it. In retrospect this was so out of character that it should have been obvious what was about to kick off, but it wasn't until that evening when the dull ache of what felt like period pain (oh, how I hadn't missed that over the previous 9 months) started to make itself felt across my lower abdomen that I thought something might be up. Something or nothing, I said to myself. Could be Braxton Hicks. Could be latent labour. Could be...hang on, what's that pink thing at the bottom of the toilet bowl? Oh. A show.

    Something or nothing. Despite my rising excitement (and a whiff of fear, this was a week early and I'd been assuming that I'd be at least a week over as this was a first baby) I went to bed. 

    I woke up at 3am with the distinct sensation that something was a bit...leaky. No big gush, just a steady leak of fluid, so I strapped a maternity pad on and wandered around the flat until 5am when I phoned the hospital and spoke to a very disinterested midwife who told me to come in "for a swab" but not to hurry. So I figured I might as well stay put for a little while and tidied up some cupboards (I know it sounds insane now but it made complete sense at the time, I promise you). When the other half woke up we decided that he would finish off some work he had to do and then we would go to the hospital.

    During the morning the contractions were coming at pretty regular intervals, around 5-6 minutes apart and lasting about 45 seconds a time but I wouldn't have said they were painful, just very uncomfortable and I was able to use the yoga training and breathe my way through them. H and I decided to go out for a walk around the block to see if that made any difference and it seemed to make them more painful if nothing else! Back home for the bag and into a cab to the birthing centre at UCLH.

    On arrival at the Bloomsbury Birthing Centre I was shown to a room and the midwife came to have a look at me. She felt my stomach whilst I had a contraction and said that it was nice but that I wasn't anywhere near ready yet and that we should go and get some lunch and have another walk around. This was at 2pm. Never one to do things by half I interpreted this as "walk around Russell Square about 5 times, leaning against trees and scaring the wildlife during each contraction". We got back to the birth centre just before 4pm and I went to change my pad, as I'd felt a lot of fluid leaking out during the walk.

    And I looked down. And the pad was green. And, I swear, my heart stopped.

    I somehow found use of my legs again and made it back down the corridor to our room and very calmly asked Kieron to go and get a midwife, now. Which he did. And she took one look and very calmly instructed Kieron to take my bag and walked us around the corner to the Labour Ward and was just lovely as she hooked me up to the monitors and explained to Kieron what meconium was and what it meant. So, that was the end of my natural, active birth. Bye bye birthing pool, sayonara gas and air.

    A midwife came in and gave me a vaginal exam (the only one I had to have thankfully, my God, I never knew they were so brutal!) and told me I was a whopping 1cm dilated. She was followed by three consultants who explained that they thought the best course of action would be a syntocin drip to accelerate the labour and get baby out as quickly as possible (is there a worse phrase than "your baby is in distress"?). I was happily nodding away and agreeing to everything they said, all I wanted was for my baby to be born as safely as possible, sod the birth plan.

    They then asked if there was a possibility the baby was breech. I smiled, and explained that I'd asked that at every antenatal and that everyone had said he was "nicely head down". They wanted to scan me just to be on the safe side, however, and there he was on the screen: head up, bottom down. Little bugger!

    I could be next in theatre. Did I consent to a caesarian? Hell, yes. By this stage I had reached a point of Zen-like serenity, nothing could faze me. However, although I didn't realise, on digesting all that was going on my poor husband lost the plot a little and had to excuse himself on the pretence of calling his mum to let her know what was going on. He was gone for ages: what I didn't realise at the time and he didn't tell me until later was that he was bawling down the phone to his mum, terrified that he was going to lose us both. Whilst I'd been reading up on every eventuality for months, he had very little idea what was happening and all the medical terms being thrown around the room just confused him even further. It wasn't until he came back and the anaesthetist came in to discuss our options that he realised I wouldn't be having a general anaesthetic - I could have had one if I'd wanted, but I opted for a spinal block instead, I didn't want to be under when my baby was born and I wanted Kieron to be right beside me. For what it's worth, I did have a section on "emergency caesarian" in my birth plan, I just never thought for a moment we'd need it. 

    We then had to wait for what seemed like an age before going into theatre, compounded by a further hours wait because one of my blood samples had the wrong number written on it and so the lab wouldn't process it! I was still having contractions at this point and the sum total of my pain relief had been two paracetamol at 2pm. Being stuck on a bed strapped to a machine was as confining and painful as all the active birth literature had promised it would be, and by the time they came to get us at 9pm I was desperate for things to get underway. I'd already been prepped by the midwifes: canula in for my IV, gown and surgical socks on, downstairs shaved, jewellery off. Kieron was sent to get changed into blue hospital scrubs (in which I found him strangely attractive, shame we couldn't have kept them).

    In theatre my anaesthetist took great pleasure in rinsing my back down with the *really cold* stuff (how do they get it so bloody cold?) before putting in the spinal block. It wasn't that bad: I couldn't see what was going on anyway and I don't remember it hurting. It was certainly effective: within a few minutes I couldn't feel my legs at all.

    Then the surgeons came in along with the midwifes and the atmosphere felt like a very clean and bright mechanics workshop: radio on, everyone bustling around doing their thing and chatting happily. The curtain went up across my chest leaving just me, my gulping husband and the anaesthetist. I can't remember what we talked about but I know he kept me distracted until the point where he told me to listen for a gurgling sound, which would immediately precede the arrival of my baby.

    Thomas George emerged at 9.36pm, arse first and (ahum) still defecating - a portent of things to come! He weighed 8lb 10oz (or 3900g in new money) and was 56cm long with a head circumference of 37cm. 

    Because of the meconium they had to take him straight the to the resuscitation table to suction his lungs before we could see him but thankfully I could hear him protesting right from the minute they took him out and so I wasn't too anxious. And then he was brought round to us, wrapped in a blue and white hospital towel, with his eyes screwed tight shut. I can't even begin to explain how I felt at that point, but it was some kind of alchemic combination of relief, pride, curiosity and elation. I don't really remember them stitching me back up, I was too entranced by this little hairy creature on my chest.

    Into the recovery room and Thomas made a good fist of his first breastfeed, he certainly seemed much more confident and capable than his mother. And then we were taken up to the ward - Kieron was allowed to accompany us and stay for a few minutes but then had to go home, whilst I spent most of the night gazing at this boy (and enjoying the tingling sensation of the feeling returning to my legs). I finally fell asleep at around 6am and awoke an hour or so later, looked over at my baby in the plastic crib next to me and thought to myself "oh, Thomas is ok" before closing my eyes again. And then waking immediately with a start and a double take - there was a BABY. Next to me. OUR BABY. 

    Whoa.

    Dude.

  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    • Suzi_Q
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    Hey pip Hug
    can TOTALLY understand why youre freaking out hun...please try not to!
    i had an elective with D because he was extended breech.
    positives -
    - you know when youre going to be coming home with a baby, so no worries about when it might happen, or going over due, etc, etc - you can prepare.
    - everythings very calm and relaxed being taken (or walking in my case) to theatre
    - you can have music playing so its a little less clinical, and gives you something to focus on while the docs do their thing
    - you dont get to see anything because the screens in the way, and all i felt was a feeling like someone was pulling and pushing in my tummy - no pain whatsoever though! H did look and he went white as a sheet though...so id advise yours not to do the same Big Smile
    - hubbie is beside you the whole time so its something you get to go through together - me and H just chatted away...well i babbled through the drugs i was on which made time fly by!
    - you know how long its going to be until you can hold your little bundle of joy, rather than the uncertainty of how long labour could be

    negatives -
    - pain afterwards, but to be honest, mine wasnt too bad. i was sitting up on my own (using the ladder they gave me) before i was out of recovery and i was able to pick up and hold D on my own from then on.
    - i didnt get to hold D or have skin to skin until i was in recovery which was WAY too long in my opinion and possibly a factor in why i had issues breastfeeding...
    BUT....
    they didnt look at my maternity notes and i dont think H made it clear to them just how much i was desperate for skin to skin ASAP so it was probably on our part just as much as the hospitals.

    GIven your history, and as long as you make it clear to the theatre staff before anything happens, and make sure your H is on STRICT orders to make it clear throughout and once bubs is born that you want to hold the baby as soon as its born....i dont see there would be any issues whatsoever. you just have to be persistent Wink

    im sure everything will be absolutely fine sweetie, and you can speak to your consultant, m/w, and everyone concerned before hand to let them know your fears. im SURE they will do everything possible to do as you wish Hug

    x

    Suzi and D Baby boy (3 weeks early in May 06) and E Baby boy (3 weeks early in November 09)

    x

  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    I had a "semi-elective" c-section after a failed induction.

    I can honestly say that is was an amazingly positive experience. I am still shocked to this day how relaxed it all was. We were all telling jokes and laughing throughout. I was given the right drugs to manage the pain afterwards and the recovery was so much better than I expected. I walked The Moon Walk 10 weeks after having Matilda in just over 6 hours.

    I can totally understand why you would want an elective. We aren't having anymore but I would definitely go for an elective next time. 

    Maybe I should put my birth story onto the Wiki... Idea

    Hope all goes well with your scan Hug

  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    Hi Pip

    I had an emergency section as my LO was undiagnosed Breech. while the actual scenario was far from how I expected my birth to go the actual section was fine and quite a relief. My LO was delivered and needed a little help but was passed to my H straight away after, while I was being stitched up,  I then got to hold her once I was wheeled into recovery. I know that with alot of planned sections the baby is delivered onto the mothers chest (all being well of course)

    I think a planned section would be a much much calmer environment and is still a possibility for me this time. I would like to attempt a VBAC as I haven't experienced the pushing stage but am leaving the decision entirely to this LO at the next scan.

    With regards to watching the process, try to keep in mind it is an operation so will look very clinical, you will have a screen up so you can't see what is happening, you won't be able to feel any pain but you will feel pressure, tugging and pulling as they get the baby out which is very bizarre but if you are prepared then might not be so unusual. also thought I should mention that if you have a section, you will need to organise help for at least 2 weeks post birth, my H took off 4 weeks and it was excellent as he did absolutely everything house related and I dealt with the baby, you will have to take it easy.

    Good luck with your decision, I personally have found it a very hard decision to make as both options have risks its just weighing up whats best for you and your family.

    Hug

  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    • kelly
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    Im just replying quick as im in a bit of a rush, but i posted much the same thing about a year ago and i got some lovely reassuring posts, so i couldnt ignore your post.

    I had an emergency c section in october 06 because my baby was in distress amongst other things. It was the scariest experience of my life, made worse by the face of horror on my husband stood next to me. It was a sudden decision made my the doctors and i suddenlt had a consent form thrust in my face and immediately i was in theatre. My baby was put into SCBU (only for a few hours as she was tiny even though i was overdue and she'd had the cord round her neck) and I was put into the HDU afterwards for 2 days and then moved to the ward for another 4. I had several blood transfusions and gawd knows what else and my recovery took forever.

    Somehow i managed to forget it all until i got pregnant again in 2009. Baby due same week as my first.  Immediately i knew i wanted a planned caesarean as i knew i couldnt go through that (horrific scary labour only to end in emergency c-section) again. All the way through my pregnancy i was told i wouldnt have a problem requesting a c-section because of what happened previously. Right up till my last scan at 36 weeks, where i met a foul doctor who scared the living daylights out of me telling me what could go wrong with a planned section. I very nearly changed my mind, but then realised that the same things could go wrong in labour and id still end up with an emergency c-section with the exact same risks, possibly enhanced due to it being an emergency. Am i making sense?

    Anyway, from the minute she agreed and gave me a date, i was a bag of nerves. I couldnt sleep and was tearful for the whole 3 weeks. On the day, i was almost hysterical with nerves. Fortunately i was the fist of three of us to be taken to theatre. I was crying my eyes out walking down. I couldnt stop thinking that i might die and leave my daughter without her Mummy. The surgeons, anethetists and nurses were absolutely amazing. The chatted to me like i was their best mate and they played the radio (once theyd calmed me down) although i couldnt manage to actually speak back, i was so scared. The anethetic didnt work 1st time so they had to faff with that again but soon we were in theatre and my husband was there looking horrified already, as id taken so long to come through. I was immediately sick and they all laughed at me. Sounds bad but it was a nice kind of laugh and they all chatted (husband included) about how terrible i must be to travel with if im sick from being wheeled into a room on a trolley. It may have been longer but my baby was delivered within what seemed like only 10 minutes after a bit of mild discomfort, not pain. The sewing up afterwards took forever mind. While they w ere doing the stitching up, they gave me my baby to hold and we all just laid there in peace for ages. (me occasionally turning to the side to vomit whenever they moved an organ around - makes me feel a bit queasy even now - doesnt take much for me though) Basically what im trying to say it that it was fantastic - if that could be used in this situation. If only i could have know how much more pleasant it would be, i would never have spent those three weeks crying and worrying. There clearly was almost nothing to worry about. The staff were amazing.

    I was back onto the normal ward within 2 hours and moved into my own room that night and home after three days. Recovery was fantastic. I know its not really somehting to 'recommend' but i really really would. Id do it again that way without a doubt (i know i would have to now but if i had the choice id pick that). Please dont be scared. i will always remember those three weeks with disappointment because i really wanted to spend those weeks just paying attention to my daughter and although i did do that i was worried about leaving her the whole time.

    Im sorry i dont know your story Pip so i hope none of this is inappropriate for you, i just wanted to highlight the difference between the two experiences. E-mail me if i can help with anything else.

  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    Margot:
    Not **Pip** but I would be really interested to see your birth plan as it's something I'm thinking carefully about for next time.

    Sorry for taking so long to reply Margot - couldnt get on last night! Below is my birth plan - maybe a little over the top for some people, but worked for us. Any questions, please dont hesitate to ask!

     

    P’s birth plan

     

    Before the birth:

    *  Husband to remain with me at all times

    *  Baby’s heartbeat to be monitored at any time when necessary

    *  Epidural

    *  Catheterisation to take place after epidural given when in theatre please

     

    During the birth:

    *  Husband to be present at all times (during surgery, recovery and on the ward)

    *  Chosen CD to be played during surgery if possible

    *  If possible, one of my arms to be left free of drips etc. to allow contact with baby when born

    *  Catheterisation to take place in theatre

    *  Husband/midwife to take photos/video of birth, weighing etc

    *  Surgeons to please advise us of what he/she is doing as the operation is performed

    *  Screen to be lowered so that we can see baby being delivered

    *  Husband to cut the umbilical cord

    *  Baby not to be cleaned up or bathed, but given to myself or husband as soon as possible

    *  Skin to skin contact immediately after birth, while in recovery, during transfer to the ward, and on the ward at anytime (if baby cannot be placed on myself, then to be given to husband)

    *  If possible, please delay nonessential newborn procedures until we’ve bonded with the baby

    *  Baby to be accompanied by myself or my husband at all times if it is necessary for baby to go anywhere

     

    After the birth:

    *  Vitamin K to be administered to baby orally

    *  BCG injection to be given to baby

    *  Pain medication to be given to myself as required

    *  I was not able to breastfeed with my first child so would like to try this time. If formula HAS to be given for whatever reason, only to be done by myself of my husband.

     www.willoughbee.com

  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    • Monica
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    Hi there,  in a rush so haven't read through all the replies so sorry if I'm repeating anything anyone else has said.  I had an emergency section due to problems in second stage.  He was back to back and going nowhere fast!  Anyway - I wouldn't hesitate to have another section.  I'd like to experience a "normal" delivery so would go for that if there's a next time if it's possible but really I thought a section was fine.  I was terrified at first but totally amazed at how in controld they were the whole time.  Whenever I said I could feel it and was scared (it doesn't hurt but you can feel them moving about in you), they put me under just a little bit more so I wasn't completely with it.  However, when they brought him out I was back in the room again in a second!  It really did amaze me.  I know that not everyone recovers as quickly as I was lucky enough to but he was born at 1pm and I spent the rest of the afternoon in bed feeding him, skin to skin ect.  Next morning I got up early and was back on my feet, went for a shower, has a bit of a stroll,  They let me out the next day although I think the norm is to be in for 3 nights but I'm obviously quite hard.  ROTFL  As I said I'm in a hurry now but do contact me and I'll give you full version. x

  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    Thanks for the replies, I wasnt able to post here yesterday but I did read the replies.

    I think I am going to jot down some things to discuss when the GP as I need to go back to them after my scan tomorrow to see where we go from there.

    I think a c section is the way to go for me, they have offered me a trial of labour and if it goes wrong they will intervene but to me this makes it an emergency situation and after last time I'm not sure this is the best thing for me to do. The way I feel is that one day I might want to do a VBAC but right now in my head natural didnt work for me. Does that make any sense?

    I'm terrified of the pain and the recovery - my recovery from labour was about 2 weeks because I was in labour so long and I didnt leave the house at all because I was so low.

    Thanks everyone.

    Theo Michael Angel 01.12.08

    Eleni Sofia 23.03.10

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  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    • Monica
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    I think I posted at the same time as you so just trying to make sure you see my post as I did have a very positive experience of a section.  As I said - do contact me if you want the full story.

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    • trixie
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    Have had emergency and elective, will return when I get a chance later x  Alice is trying to do crafts and under Amy feeding!

  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    Thanks everyone, this is great stuff.

    P, you're brave watching the delivery arent you??

    Theo Michael Angel 01.12.08

    Eleni Sofia 23.03.10

    Jonah Theo 11.04.11

    http://www.justgiving.com/theowilson

    blog here: http://www.simplesite.com/TheosStar

  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    • Carrot
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    Pip I think in your shoes I'd make the same decision. My best tip- if you do go for an elective- is to turn up early on the day as it's first come first served (except for emergencies which obviously get priority) and you don't want to be hanging around for hours with nerves and an empty tummy.

    Thomas- February 2007

    Lydia- August 2009

  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    Can I also just say thank you for not judging me about possibly having an elective without there being a 'physical' reason.

    (sens)

    I'm struggling to get past the bit in my head which says that my baby died whilst I was giving birth to him, and I dont feel ready to try that again.

    Theo Michael Angel 01.12.08

    Eleni Sofia 23.03.10

    Jonah Theo 11.04.11

    http://www.justgiving.com/theowilson

    blog here: http://www.simplesite.com/TheosStar

  • Re: C Section stories and reassurance please! Bit sens

    **Pip**:
    P, you're brave watching the delivery arent you??

    Smile I was actually quite disappointed cos I couldnt see much!! Just A being lifted up and shouting his little head off!! Wink Even on our video (just filmed the actual delivery, none of the gory cutting etc) there was hardly any blood or yukky stuff - quite clean!

     www.willoughbee.com

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